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at schools we are learning more about adam lanza. the washington post today has a quote from his former first grade teacher who says there was a quiet depth to him that i couldn't penetrate. let's bring in national political reporter and bob franken, a syndicated columnist. welcome to both of you. before we get started i want to play you more on the interview on "meet the press" this morning. >> if it is crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children then call me crazy. i will tell you what the american people, i think the american people think it is crazy not to do it. it is the one thing that would keep people safe and the nra is going to try to do that. >> immediately following the interview new york senator chuck schumer called wayne lapierre tone deaf. what do you make of the discussion that the nation and the lawmakers are having around gun control especially considering how often these conversations seem to flare up after something horrible like this and fade just as quickly? >> it does fade just as quickly because the gun lobby terifies any p
for -- and david knock murrah, white house reporter for the washington post. great to have you here. steve, i want to start with you because you just heard senator lieberman say that he thinks it's more likely that we're all going to be going over this cliff than not. is that the sense that you have been getting from lawmakers as well? >> absolutely. first of all, i just checked about 20 minutes ago. there are no talks going on today. the senate comes back on the 27th. there's a lot of stock being put many the fact that maybe mitch mcconnell and harry reid can cut a deal, but mitch mcconnell, though by his nature, is a dealmaker, feels a lot of these same kind of tea party pressures at home that a lot of members of the house feel. he has a potential primary challenge of 2014. the tea party is very strong in kentucky. that's ran paul country. he is very mindful of that. i don't think he is in a position right now to cut any kind of deal that would invite a problem for himself at home. >> all right. when we hear senator john barosso saying he thinks the president is eager to go over the cliff becaus
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